“Who Brings the Casserole?”


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Over coffee, I had a meaningful conversation with a person who works with our local chapter of NAMI — the National Alliance on Mental Illness.

“Churches and extended community groups know how to provide care for people with cancer. We should be able to do the same thing for people experiencing mental health challenges,” she shared.

When someone is depressed, who brings over the casserole?

When someone is traumatized, who makes phone calls to check on them?

When someone is easily overstimulated or triggered, who accompanies them to the grocery, aiding them in the slew options, colors, and florescent lights?

Good questions. I am grateful that she is bringing these questions to congregations and our wider county.

Later that same evening, I had a phone call with Project UPLIFT. In my staff role with the Epilepsy Foundation of Michigan, we host an eight week program over the phone for people with epilepsy and depression. I do this with alongside an incredible psychologist who teaches, facilitates, and provides people with tools to manage depression.

I find myself curious about our unquestioned, cultural beliefs… Why is it that we treat certain health conditions with community care but treat people with a mental illness as though their condition is some kind of character flaw? (It’s not). I also find myself curious…Why do we tend to make this big internal dichotomy between physical illness and mental illness, as if mental illness is not also physical? (Of course it is).

These questions keep swirling…

Renee Roederer

The Spiritual Practice of Asking for Things


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Last week, a student said to me, “You know, it’s like my Mom always used to say: ‘Ask and you shall receive’!”

I smiled. “You mean… Jesus?”

“Wait! Jesus said that?!?”

We both laughed hard. It was a very dear moment.

Whether we heard this phrase from Jesus or our various Mamas, I think it’s true. In fact, I’ve started engaging this as a spiritual discipline of sorts. I am practicing asking people for things.

This is because I truly want to live in the directions of abundance and interdependence. We need these.

Last week, with this in mind, I sent an email to people in a local congregation I love. I had a tear around the pocket of my clergy robe which was getting bigger all the time. Last month, it was big enough that I stopped wearing it. I asked if anyone has skills in sewing, naming honestly that that’s not my gift.

I immediately had four people offer to fix it.

When I gave my robe to one of those people on Sunday, she had it finished one day later.


I have a lot of gratitude for this and for the ways other people provide in my life too.

Everyone has skills, time, interests, and resources to share with others. As I’ve begun asking people for their skills, time, interests, and resources, I have begun to consider just as intentionally how I can share my own.

Might I offer to make this person a meal?

Where should I send this extra money?

How do I do the things I do best… toward others?

This is a good discipline.

It’s good to ask.
It’s good to receive.
It’s good to give.
It’s good to provide.

Thanks, Jesus. Thanks, Mom.

Renee Roederer


Simple Truth, Big Invitation


Image Description: The front of a program, entitled “Voices of Youth: Love Draws Us Together.” It also gives the date and time: “February 16th 4pm (Doors open at 3:30pm).”Symbols from various faith traditions surround these words in the shape of a heart. Below is a paragraph that reads, “The Interfaith Round Table of Washtenaw County is a spiritually based alliance of people from across the spectrum of faith who come together to highlight our commonalities and explore issues with the potential to be divisive. Our intention is to lift up our beauty and illuminate places where there are misconceptions. Respect and understanding are our shared vision of healing a broken world. In safe places, through education, frank discussion, and shared practices, we seek to build sustainable bridges. The harmonious culture we seek is one that is inclusive and deeply appreciative of spiritual traditions.”

Simple truth, big invitation.

I find myself reflecting on this one day later.

Yesterday afternoon, the Interfaith Round Table of Washtenaw County hosted a choir concert featuring performances from four children and youth choirs representing a variety of faith traditions. Children and youth from the Baha’is of Washtenaw County, the Chinmaya Mission of Ann Arbor, St. Paul United Church of Christ, and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints all performed songs based on the concert theme of “Love Draws Us Together.”

The kids were incredible, and they led the way. They brought home that theme of love and made it come alive. There were feelings of love in the room, along with support, encouragement, and delight. The audience ended up singing along a lot too. So there was an invitation to join the music and participate fully.

Love draws us together.

This is a simple truth, but a big invitation.

Love isn’t only a feeling.

Love invites action.
Love invites tangible care.
Love invites mutual understanding.
Love invites dignified appreciation.
Love invites respect.

Love takes risks.
Love works through conflict.
Love stretches us toward empathy.

Love invites questions:

Who am I called to be, and how? Who are we called to be, and how?

Renee Roederer

The Unknown Sarah Smith


Image Description: Candles from Compline. Three lit candles are on top of a table. Two of the candles are blue, and the other is white. There is also a blue and white plate and small, flat, ceramic piece with a painting of a yellow and orange flower.

“Who brings out the best you?”

My friend and colleague asked that question last night when we were gathered with students at Compline. “Who has shaped you deeply — not necessarily in ways that made you like them — but in ways that made you more like you?”

We each had the occasion to reflect on that and share if we wish. I have some people in my life for whom my answer is immediate and obvious. They have given me this kind of gift in abundance, and I was grateful for the occasion to share about them.

So I bring those questions to you today also:

Who brings out the best in you? Who has shaped you deeply — not necessarily in ways that made you more like them — but in ways that made you more like you?

In the midst of our conversation, my friend and colleague also lifted up a passage from C.S. Lewis The Great Divorce. I’ve never read that book before, so this was unknown to me. While receiving a glimpse of heaven with a guide, a man sees a person he’s never encountered before.

“Is it? … is it?” I whispered to my guide.

“Not at all,” said he. “It’s someone ye’ll never have heard of. Her name on earth was Sarah Smith and she lived at Golden Green.”

“She seems to be… well, a person of particular importance?”

“Aye. She is one of the great ones. Ye have heard that fame in this country and fame on Earth are two quite different things.”

“And who are these gigantic people… look! They’re like emeralds… who are dancing and throwing flowers before her?”

“Haven’t ye read your Milton? A thousand liveried angels lackey her.”

“And who are all these young men and women on each side?”

“They are her sons and daughters.”

“She must have had a very large family, Sir.”

“Every young man or boy that met her became her son — even if it was only the boy that brought the meat to the back door. Every girl that met her was her daughter.”

“Isn’t that a bit hard on their own parents?”

“No. There are those that steal other people’s children. But her motherhood was of a different kind. Those on whom it fell went back to their natural parents loving them more. Few men looked on her without becoming, in a certain fashion, her lovers. But it was the kind of love that made them not less true, but truer, to their own wives.”

“And how… but hullo! What are all these animals? A cat — two cats — dozens of cats. And all those dogs… why I can’t count them. And the birds. And the horses.”

“They are her beasts.”

“Did she keep a sort of zoo? I mean, this is a bit too much.”

“Every beast and bird that came near her had its place in her love. In her they became themselves. And now the abundance of life she has in Christ from the Father flows over into them.”

I looked at my Teacher in amazement.

“Yes,” he said. “It is like when you throw a stone into a pool, and the concentric waves spread out further and further. Who knows where it will end? Redeemed humanity is still young, and it has hardly come to its full strength. But already there is joy enough in the little finger of a great saint such as yonder lady to waken all of the dead things of the universe into life.” (C.S. Lewis, The Great Divorce)

The Unknown Sarah Smith.

Who brings out the best in you? Who has shaped you deeply — not necessarily in ways that made you more like them — but in ways that made you more like you?

Renee Roederer


Michigan Nones and Dones is a Platform for Conversation

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Michigan Nones and Dones is a community that has been meeting in Southeast Michigan for the last four years in coffee shops, restaurants, parks, and homes to talk about spirituality and make meaning together as friends. This community includes people who are religiously unaffiliated (Nones), people who identify with a faith tradition but have departed from traditional, institutional religious communities (Dones), and people who remain connected to faith communities to some degree but find themselves curious about new ways to form and structure community.

We often say that Michigan Nones and Dones is a community for people who are “spiritually curious but institutionally suspicious.” It’s amazing how people with many various backgrounds and perspectives can gather together under the umbrella of that description. The community includes,

-people who are agnostic and interested in spirituality and forming friendships of meaning (i.e. by this, I mean talking about life — gifts, challenges, what’s going on in the world, things that matter)

-de-affiliated Christians — folks who identify as Christian, but feel disappointed in and/or ostracized by traditional churches, or who have perhaps been excluded by churches,

-people who are atheists who want to uplift the morality of humanism,

-people who might call themselves inter-spiritual, as they grew up with more than one faith tradition,

-people who say, “I’m secular,” or “spiritual but not religious,”

-people who are religiously unaffiliated and unsure about particular, theological beliefs, but who say, “I believe in a Higher Power of some kind,”

-people who say, “I don’t like labels. I just want to have good conversation,”

-people who are connected with traditional faith communities but frustrated with unethical behavior they see happening there, longing for a better vision,

-people who practice spiritual traditions that might fall under the umbrella of mysticism.

Michigan Nones and Dones is first and foremost a community, but I realize it is also an incredible platform for conversation. How rare is it to sit around a table with all of these backgrounds, find some commonality of experience, and uplift different perspectives in ways that enrich all those who are gathered together? We all learn from one another.

It is a wonderful gift to share conversation together. These relationships matter as people are welcomed and heard, invited to share insights, and brought into friendships they might not have made otherwise.

I am grateful, grateful.

Here is a story about us in the Toledo Blade newspaper: ‘Nones and Dones’ help conflicted reconnect to their spiritual side

You can follow Michigan Nones and Dones here on Facebook.

Renee Roederer

Can Our World Experience Post-Traumatic Growth?

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These days, it’s so important to give and receive gentleness from one another.

Gentleness is a consistent human need, but right now, we may need it in a particularly deep and present way. Our world seems to be reeling from waves of trauma. When we hold awareness of traumatic pain, whether we’ve experienced it directly or felt it via the news cycle, our bodies, minds, and spirits can be deeply affected.

Waves of trauma in our world are not new, of course, but right now, we are especially aware of injustices and forms of insecurity – white supremacy, economic inequality, numerous natural disasters, deportations and family separations, and violence on a massive scale. To be aware of these things is not merely to know about them but to be affected by them.

We need action – decisive, creative, and disruptive action to adequately address and rectify all of these.

And alongside that action, we also need gentleness.

Our bodies need it, our minds need it, our emotions need it, our sense of spiritual longing needs it.

And perhaps, our sense of time needs it too. Here is a paradoxical thing I have learned over the years about trauma:

Trauma often distorts time. This is especially true in a post-traumatic experience. A small detail in the present moment can suddenly pull us back into the past, making it feel as though a past upheaval is happening right now. Likewise, a small detail in the present moment can suddenly ignite anxiety, causing a tailspin of fear in which we imagine a future where the upheaval might repeat itself. In these ways, trauma can bookend the present moment with a past and future that feel quite painful and insecure.

But with gentleness,

Trauma also opens up time. This is a pretty miraculous thing. There is also concept called post-traumatic growth. (Watch this video). Some people who experience the upheaval of trauma are able to remake their lives and live them more deeply, often with a greater sense of love and spiritual meaning than they might have had before. This is in no way to suggest that the trauma is somehow a good thing or a blessing in disguise. Certainly not. But post-traumatic growth can happen alongside the traumatic distortion. When it comes to a sense of time, there can actually be a bit of reversal of what I’ve articulated above. Good memories and meaningful relationships can be internalized in such a way that they are felt as deeply present. Beloved people and life-giving moments from the past and hopes for the future can feel more accessible in the present moment among people who have experienced post-traumatic growth.

So what helps people experience this kind of growth? Two things are very important:

1) being surrounded by a community of care with relationships that add gentleness and sustaining presence


2) becoming enabled to make meaning of the traumatic experience, while learning to create a new narrative with that meaning.

So these days, in this time we’re living, I wonder,

Can our world collectively experience post-traumatic growth? Can this be a collective awakening toward deeper love and greater meaning?

Those questions are not easily answered, so they linger.

But I know this: Gentleness will be important.

Renee Roederer